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Título: A intuição no trading
Mensagem de: bluexip em Março 29, 2008, 18:32
in "The new market wizards, Jack Schawger"

cumprimentos,
bluexip

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==== I still don't understand your trading method. How could you make these huge sums of money by just watching the screen? ====
There was no system to it. It was nothing more than, "I think the market is going up, so I'm going to buy." "It's gone up enough, so I'm going to sell." It was completely impulsive. I didn't sit down and formulate any trading plan. I don't know where the intuition comes from, and there are times when it goes away.

==== How do you recognize when it goes away? ====
When I'm wrong three times in a row, I call time out. Then I paper trade for a while.

==== For how long do you paper trade? ====
Until I think I'm in sync with the market again. Every market has a rhythm, and our job as traders is to get in sync with that rhythm. I'm not really trading when I'm doing those trades. There's trading being done, but I' m not doing it.

==== What do you mean you're not doing it? ====
There's buying and selling going on, but it's just going through me. It's like my personality and ego are not there. I don't even get a sense of satisfaction on these trades. It's absolutely that objective. Did you ever read Zen and the Art of Archery?

==== No, I have to admit, I missed that one. ====
The essence of the idea is that you have to leam to let the arrow shoot itself. There's no ego involved. It's not, "I'm shooting the arrow, and I'm releasing it." Rather, the arrow is shot, and it's always right. The same concept applies to trading. There's no sense of self at all. There's just an awareness of what will happen. The trick is to differentiate between what you want to happen and what you know will happen. The intuition knows what will happen. In trading, just as in archery, whenever there is effort, force, straining, snuggling, or trying, it's wrong. You're out of sync; you're out of harmony with the market. The perfect trade is one that requires no effort.


==== You talk about knowing what will happen. Can you give me an example?====
The current decline in the mark versus the yen is something that I just knew would happen.

==== Before the mark went down versus the yen, it had trended in the other direction for quite some time. How did you know when the timing was right for the trade? ====
The trigger was actually a Freudian slip. I was talking about the yen/mark rate with another trader when it was trading at 87.80. I kept on referring to the price as 77.80. The other trader finally said, "What are you talking about?" I realized that I was off by ten big figures in my price references. Obviously, there was some part of me that was looking for the rate to go down to that level. It was literally bubbling out of me.
Título: Re: A intuição no trading
Mensagem de: tiagodandre em Março 29, 2008, 18:58
Ui....em vez de uns cursos de AT, deviam abrir uns de ZEN Method... :D

Isto para mim é muito complexo, ainda não atingi esse nível de meditação...;)...no entanto uma coisa ele tem razão: Deixar as emoções de parte, pois condicionam a nossa visão dos acontecimentos...fazer trades sem paixão é fundamental, pois caso contrário o mercado pode puxar-nos o tapete de baixo dos pés!

Eu imagino a opinião dos outros traders sobre ele...(Ganda maluco :o), o que é que o gajo está para ali a falar..LOL..cada um tem as suas Trading Strategies, mas esta é sem dúvida uma das mais originais...

Mas vamos lá tentar blue...MMMMMMMMMM OOOOMMMMM....AH!...já sei o que vai acontecer para a semana!  :)


Gostei blue,...é sempre interessante conhecer as técnicas de outros traders!

Cump.
Título: Re: A intuição no trading
Mensagem de: zfranco em Março 29, 2008, 23:43
Atenção que o trader usa a intuição baseado na observação do ecrã ,granda memória ,já são muitos anos nisto.