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Título: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 06, 2009, 23:45
Viva,

quem quiser para discusão de bolsa, AT (...) adicione o seguinte contacto ao msn messenger:

[email protected]

For Windows Live Messenger (MSN Messenger) & Yahoo Messenger users: Just add the account below as your Messenger contact, and enjoy :)

Para entender, embora seja muitissimo fácil:

http://groups.im/quickstart.html

É só adicionar e enviar um nudge ao contacto, para entrar no GRUPO.

É uma boa forma de comunicar realtime e sem ter de revelar o contacto (para quem não quer).

Cumprimentos.
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Mensagem de: jose_goncalves em Janeiro 07, 2009, 14:54
ora cá está uma boa iniciativa, é preciso é que o pessoal adira.

bem pensado vset.
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Mensagem de: mvlameiro em Janeiro 07, 2009, 14:58
Aqui está uma bela ideia! Eu já aderi!

Cumprimentos e bn
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Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 08, 2009, 11:59
É uma forma funcional de comunicação entre traders, sempre activa 24h.

Cumprimentos.
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Mensagem de: eduardo07 em Janeiro 08, 2009, 12:20
Tb ja aderi é uma boa ideia para podermos trocar impressoes.
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Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 14, 2009, 11:45
Bom dia,

não alterem a Language para Português, mantenham o Inglês. O Activity Panel poderá deixar de funcionar dessa forma.

Happy and Peacefull Trading!
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Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 17, 2009, 18:27
Exemplo do aspecto do chat
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Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 22, 2009, 22:59
Gráficos para a Comunidade de Traders


Setup Chart nº1
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Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 24, 2009, 16:42
Trading Education para Comunidade de Traders

PRODUCTIVE TRADING

Trading can take a lot out of you. If you are an aspiring trader looking for consistent profits, you have your work cut out for you. Many, many people are attracted to trading, but only a few actually become consistently profitable. I believe it takes a special kind of person to pursue trading; the kind of person who is not afraid of setbacks and who can persist even when the whole situation seems hopeless.
I often use the term "aspiring trader." To my way of thinking, until you are actually able to earn a living trading, you remain an aspiring trader.

There are three key strategies any trader can use to hang on when things all seem to be going wrong.
Learn to fight. It's interesting to know that when the ancient Romans put a bull and a bear in the same arena, the difference between the two animals was significant. When you hurt bull, it just makes him angrier and all the more willing to fight. Hence the term "brave bulls." When you hurt a bear, it seeks to escape. Bear markets are characterized by investors seeking to escape. Create an alternative reward system. You have to find ways to reward yourself even when you are experiencing losses. You cannot rely solely on market wins for your rewards. And while I'm at it, I don't mean an alternate reward system that involves going out to eat a hot fudge sundae. Eating type rewards will not contribute to your staying fit as a trader.
Focus on the process, not the prize.
Trading can put you on an emotional and psychological roller-coaster. You find yourself walking a thin line between feelings of arrogance and overconfidence, and feelings of incompetence and inadequacy. We all go through these feelings. Learn to live with them.

Trading is a business in which it is not unrealistic to assume you'll see more losses than wins. It's not easy to work under those conditions. We are used to getting paid for working; very few jobs cause you, as an employee, to take losses. However, aspiring traders are likely to put in long hours, with a possibility that the only reward they might get is losses.

Trading requires diligence and persistence, especially during times of disappointment and seemingly endless failures. Most people's confidence is severely shaken upon meeting such circumstances, and they often react with arrogant overconfidence. They build themselves up to the point where they are unrealistically optimistic. But it is necessary to remain realistic, ready to face setbacks head on, and unafraid to look at your limitations. By cultivating a fighting spirit, one can look at setbacks as minor commonplace events, and take them in stride.

When I was a lot younger, I used to coach baseball. You could immediately separate the players with infield potential by hitting hot grounders directly at them. Those who could keep their eye on the ball and not flinch, those who actually attacked the ball, were the ones who could play in the infield.

When people come to me wanting to be a day trader, I ask them two questions: Were you ever in a fist fight? If so, were you able to take a hit on the nose and keep coming? If the answer is yes, I know I've found a potential day trader. If the answer is no, then I know it is going to take a lot of work, and I will strongly suggest they learn to trade options or spreads.

Although profits are an obvious and natural reward for trading efforts, they are not always tied to the amount of work we put in. If you focus on the profits, it is likely that your mood will rise and fall with your account balance. Setting up an alternative reward schedule will provide more consistent rewards and allow you to persist even when faced with a losing streak. Reward yourself after putting in a fixed amount of time (the end of each day, for example). Buy yourself a nice shirt or do something you find enjoyable. By patting yourself on the back for your efforts, you'll consistently feel satisfied with your trading business, and stick with it.

Finally, you must focus on the process, not the prize. Trading is about making money, but the irony is that if you focus on the outcomes of your trades, you'll put excessive pressure on yourself and choke under that pressure. By focusing on intrinsic, rather than extrinsic, rewards, you'll feel more comfortable and creative, and trade more profitably in the long run. It may seem counterintuitive, but trading is all about being a contrarian to some extent. By focusing on the process of trading, rather than profits, rewarding yourself for effort rather than outcome, and cultivating a fighting spirit, you'll eventually become a successful trader.
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Mensagem de: vset em Janeiro 27, 2009, 14:30
Clean Chart n.1

20 anos de NDX
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no MSN + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 01, 2009, 11:33
Video n.1

A Day on the Street

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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 02, 2009, 13:20


DAX 1 FEV. 2009


Happy trading!
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 04, 2009, 12:11

STAYING WITH YOUR PLAN

Aspiring traders often tell us that they have difficulty staying with their trading plan. There are many possible reasons this happens. Usually it's because of not having a clearly defined plan. When a trading plan is not clearly defined, it is hard to follow and easy to abandon.
Often we see traders whose do have a trading plan, but the one they have is much too complicated.

When you trade in an ad hoc way, even just a little bit that way, you can panic at the wrong moment. You may find yourself over-thinking your plan, or you may become easily absorbed with self-doubt. By contrast, when you clearly define a trading plan, you can implement it almost automatically. You can enter and exit with less effort. Many aspiring traders say, however, that even when they painstakingly delineate a trading plan, they still have difficulty following it. Depending on your personality, you may or may not have difficulty maintaining control and discipline.
Often, traders who are usually controlled and disciplined in other areas of their life, tend to have trouble sticking with trading plans. Disciplined people are rule followers, and research studies have shown that rule followers prefer certainty. However, anyone who has traded the markets for a few months soon realizes that the markets are not certain, and conventional wisdom is not consistently valid. It is true only when it is true, and the rest of the time it is wrong. I've said many times that in the market, two and two are just as easily twenty-two as they are four.
As it turns out, people who are more impulsive in everyday life have less difficulty following a trading plan. They view trading as fun and excitement, and they enjoy risk. These kinds of people truly don't care what happens. They have a natural, carefree attitude when it comes to trading. They can easily think, "Why not follow a plan? It doesn't matter if it goes awry." This kind of thinking is useful for a trader.
Most traders, however, have trouble approaching trading with a carefree attitude. For example, they may see the price rise initially. But then it stalls before reaching the predefined exit point. They instinctively think, "How much longer can it go up? They are skeptical. They think to themselves, "There aren't enough buyers. I can't wait. I've got to sell and lock in my profits right now." When they get to that point, they start thinking, "Don't be greedy. How can it be a bad thing to get out early and get a profit?" At that point, it's hard to stay in the trade. But it is vital for economic success to stick with the plan. Unless the plan calls for early exit, stay in! It is a matter of simple arithmetic. Although there may be several profitable trade setups out there, finding one is relatively rare. You'll see many more setups that don't pan out than actually do. When you hit upon one, you must capitalize on it, and optimize your profits, getting as much out of the trade as practical, while at the same time avoiding taking a loss on a trade that has been a winner. Otherwise, in the long run, your winners won't balance out your losers.
If you are a natural born risk taker, sticking with your plan is less difficult. Risk takers get a rush from the trade, and can't wait to see what happens. The psychological rush is more enjoyable, in some ways, than the outcome. Most people, however, are naturally worried about the outcome of their trades, and a little cautious voice nags them to get out of a trade before it comes to fruition.

How do you quiet the voice of caution? It's difficult. Some traders have suggested trading while tired or dazed, so that only a fixed amount of energy is left to both focus on the cautious voice and trading, so in the end you just automatically trade the plan. The idea is to lower your inhibitions so that you just follow the plan without thinking. It's the right idea, but it is hard to implement.

Some people might be able to trade while tired and dazed, but it is more likely that such a strategy will produce impulsive decisions in most people. It is probably wiser to be rested so that you can concentrate and quiet the little voice that nags you to get out of a trade too soon. The way I like to do it is to have a strategy that allows me to win by getting out "too soon." By coming up with high percentage setups, I find that I can plan to get out quickly and still make money.
Perhaps the best thing you can do is to manage risk. If the outcome of the trade truly doesn't matter, then you won't worry as much and can stick with your trading plan. Once you are rested, can concentrate, and you have relatively little to lose, you can try to cultivate the proper mindset of the winning trader.

Winning traders view trading as a fun business, much like how a person plays the card game of bridge. Bridge players are serious, yet they enjoy the game. They think, "I'm just having fun." Winning traders look at a trade and think, "I want to see if it reaches the exit point or not. It is more important to find out than anything else." They enjoy the trading. They are a student of the markets. The learning experience is more important than the outcome. Winning traders are not only players of the "game," but observers. They know how to look at the market action, even while in it, objectively, and it is more important to see what happens and gain experience than merely win. If you can cultivate such an attitude, you'll be able to follow your trading plan, and silence the voice of self-doubt that often thwarts your trading efforts.
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 05, 2009, 15:08

Frase para trader

Don't focus on making money; Focus on protecting what you have ...... Play great defence, Not great offence .... The the profits will follow' 'PAUL TUDOR JONES'
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 08, 2009, 17:10
THINGS I LEARNED FROM MY GREAT UNCLE

    Don't trade just because the market is open. Wait for your trade, the one that has your name on it. There are better and worse times to trade. Most commodity markets are best traded a few minutes after 09:30 U.S. Central Time.

    Don't trade based on news events. I know a lot of traders tell you to trade that way, but if you trade from them long enough you will realize that doing so is no better than flipping coin. At best, you'll break even. You just never know how people are going to react to the news -- good or bad.

    Whatever amount of capital you are able to trade with, trade less than you think you should. First and foremost it is important to be well capitalized. Having deep pockets relative to what you are trading is important to your feeling of well-being. Undertrading your account takes away a lot of the stress and pressure in trading. Does deep pockets mean you have to have huge account? Not at all. For example, if you have an account with only U.S.$3,000 and you lose 20 ticks worth $10 each, you will have lost 6.7% of your account. But if you lose those same 20 ticks with a $1,000 account, you will have lost 20% of your capital.

    Trade what you see, not what you think. When I was first told this truth, I didn't really understand what it meant or why I had to train myself to trade only what I see. But it soon became apparent that whenever I traded my opinion, the best I could do was a little less than breakeven. You see, what you think has nothing to do with the reality of price movement. What you think is colored by your own perception of what prices should do, not what they are actually doing. That's when I learned to write my opinion on a piece of paper and then throw that piece of paper into the trash. Yet writing it down was important because, as a human being, I had a need to express my opinion. Quite frankly, the whole process was something like learning to tap your head with one hand while learning to make circular motions on your abdomen with your other hand. I have to separate what I think from what I see.
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 10, 2009, 17:48
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 12, 2009, 16:29

Trading Station
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 16, 2009, 15:13
INCREASE YOUR DISCIPLINE

    During the time my great uncle mentored me, he did not teach me how to trade. He was adamant that I had to learn that for myself. Mostly he taught me how to maintain discipline and self-control. He was a very strict disciplinarian, and I was a wild hare -- much in need of both discipline and self-control. He informed me right at the start that I would learn how to trade by trading, and not by trying to do what he did. He laid the foundation, but I had to build on that foundation.

    You will find one thing that is fairly consistent with winning traders: they are self-disciplined. They control their impulses and feelings, and this allows them to execute a trading strategy with ease and perfection.

    I have heard many times about Jesse Livermore and what a great trader he was. But in my estimation, and that of my uncle, Jesse Livermore was a colossal flop. He was not someone whom I would want use as a model for how to conduct a trading business. Livermore was undisciplined, wild, and out of control. He ended his life broke and committing suicide. Is that what you would consider greatness?

    The disciplined trader is decisive. The undisciplined trader, in contrast, wavers. He or she may stick with a trading plan occasionally, while going a different way at other times. Discipline is indeed a key ingredient to success, but not everyone has a high level of self-discipline. It's worth determining where you stand on this trait and, if you lack discipline and self-control, work to build it up.

    Discipline and self-control are well-studied personality traits. Some people are highly disciplined and very self-controlled. They scrupulously follow rules, and are careful to control their impulses. You know the type; they pay off their credit cards every month, are never late for an appointment, and carefully plan every detail of their lives.

    Although these characteristics may be ideal for trading, there's a downside: such people tend to have trouble taking risks. They prefer a sure thing, and trading outcomes are rarely sure things. I have found that winning traders tend to prefer living a little on the wild side. They may not recklessly seek out risk, but they don't mind it. Relative to the "discipline freak," they tend to lack discipline and control, but not to the extent that they endanger themselves.

    Perhaps that's why so many trading books and coaches find it necessary to preach the virtues of self-control. How is your discipline and self-control? Do you have trouble sticking with your trading plan? Do you long for more discipline and self-control when it comes to your trading? If you have trouble with discipline, you may want to try a stimulating exercise to increase your awareness: observe your level of self-control in your everyday life, and try to gain more control. How much discipline and self-control do you practice in your everyday life? Are you late for appointments? Do you spend more money each month than your budget allows? Do you frequently find yourself breaking promises?

    It's not necessarily the case that a disciplined trader is disciplined in all aspects of life, but it helps. The life strategies we use in everyday life may bleed over into our trading life. If you often overspend, overeat, or have an unrestrained need for pleasure, you may find maintaining self-control and discipline while trading a bit more difficult than do others. So try this exercise: spend a few weeks trying to control as much of your life as possible. Pick specific areas in which you can gain more self-control. Control your caloric intake, the money you spend, and/or time spent in leisure activities or some other area in which you see a need for strengthening yourself. See how well you do. It may change your reference point. You may soon discover that you rarely control your impulses, and you can do much better. And this, in turn, may positively influence your ability to stick with your trading plan. It's worth trying. Discipline is the key to trading success, and it's vital that we do everything we can to increase it, but we must also maintain balance between the optimum amount of discipline, and not enough or too much discipline.
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 17, 2009, 15:33

No meu tempo vi um filme " A Grande Descida " (de skates - que adorava)

Agora em versão de market:
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 20, 2009, 14:32

IF YOU HAVE A PLAN, STAY WITH IT

    Traders often tell me they have trouble sticking with their trading plan. There are many possible reasons. One common reason is not having a clearly defined plan. When a trading plan is not clearly defined, it's tough to follow and easy to give up.

    When you trade without a solid plan, you might panic at the wrong moment. You may be prone to over-thinking your plan, or you may become easily consumed with self-doubt.

    When you clearly define a plan, you can implement it more easily. You can enter and exit with less effort. Many traders say that even when they carefully develop a detailed trading plan, they still have difficulty following it. Depending on your personality, you may or may not have difficulty maintaining control and discipline.

    Even people who are usually controlled and disciplined in everyday life sometimes tend to have trouble sticking with trading plans. Disciplined people are rule followers, and I have found that rule followers prefer certainty. However, anyone who has traded the markets for even a few months realizes that the markets are anything but certain. Normal wisdom seems to work only sometimes. Markets are true only when they decide to conform to normal thoughts and ideas, and the rest of the time they go where they want to go, in spite of all your planning.

    As it turns out, people who are more impulsive in everyday life have less difficulty following a trading plan. They view trading as a "game," and they enjoy risk. They have a natural, carefree attitude when it comes to trading. In a sense, they just don't care. They can easily think, "Why not follow a plan? It doesn't matter if it goes awry." This kind of thinking is useful for a trader.

    Most traders, however, have trouble approaching trading with that carefree attitude. For example, they may see the price rise initially. But then it stalls before reaching their predefined exit point. They think, "How much longer can it go up? There aren't enough buyers. I can't wait. I've got to sell and lock in my profits right now." When they get to that point, they start thinking, "Don't be greedy. How can it be a bad thing to get out early and take a profit?" At that point, it's hard to stay in the trade. I ought to know, it happens to me all the time.

    But it's really important for trading success to stick with the plan. It is a matter of simple mathematics. Although there may be several profitable trade setups out there, finding one is relatively rare. You'll see many more setups that don't work out than those that actually do. When you hit upon one, you must capitalize on it and optimize your profits, getting as much out of the trade as possible. Otherwise, in the long run, your winners won't balance out your losers.

    If you are a natural born risk taker, sticking with your plan is less difficult. Risk takers get a rush from the trade and can't wait to see what happens. The psychological rush is more enjoyable, in some ways, than the outcome. Most people, however, are naturally worried about the outcome of their trades, and a little cautious voice nags them to get out of a trade before it reaches their objective. How do you quiet the voice of caution? It's really hard to do.

    One thing I've discovered is that I am more comfortable and able to stick with my plan if I set very moderate objectives for each trade. That way I get a high percentage of winners, and my success comes from "nibbling" the market, taking small and reasonable amounts from a high percentage of winners.
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Mensagem de: vset em Fevereiro 28, 2009, 17:31
TRADING CAN BE BORING

    Many people have heard me say that trading can be boring. They tell me they wish they could be bored like me.

    Interestingly, these days, few traders find it profitable to scalp or trade intraday anymore. Increasingly, traders seem to prefer to make swing trades, but swing trading, too, can be boring at times. Depending on your total capital, it is hard to make too many swing trades and also limit risk. You can make only a few trades, and then you usually must wait at least a few days before you can take any action. Assuming that your trade setup isn't completely wrong, it takes a little time to find out what happens. All you can do is execute a trade, or a few swing trades, and wait. (By the way, they used to call swing trading "Position Trading;" I just thought you'd like to know.)

    It takes a certain kind of trader to swing trade - a patient trader. A scalper, for example, wants to get in and get out. Waiting patiently is hard. It's an uneasy feeling. Nevertheless, there are patient scalpers and there are impatient swing traders.  It certainly comes down to a matter of finding your best fit
    .
    It's impossible to put traders into little compartments and call them patient or impatient.  When I'm day trading, I am almost always a scalper, but until I see the trade I feel very sure of, I will let lots of trades go by. Once I see the trade I want, I become very impatient. However, when I'm trading options, I am the picture of serenity. I can wait for days to put together all the legs of a three-part option trade.

    Some traders may like to put on trades for excitement, and they just can't wait to see what happens. In the meantime, the waiting is agony. It can be tedious waiting to see the outcome.

    How can you fight the boredom? Depending on your personality, it is wise to have a plan to fight boredom; otherwise you may try to seek out excitement, and that for some traders may mean making impulsive decisions instead of letting your trading plan reach fruition.

    Some people are natural risk takers, and get bored easily. They may have difficulty making swing trades because there isn't enough excitement or action. If you fall into this category, you may be likely to close out a trade prematurely because you just can't wait to see the outcome. If this is the case, you may want to work around the problem. Unless you have a large account in which you can put on many trades and still manage risk (by risking a relatively small amount of capital on a single trade, for example), you can't make very many swing trades. It may be wise in this case to put in a stop loss order and just commit yourself to waiting a few days before taking any action. Once the stop loss is in place, you may have to just walk away for a while. If you continue to watch the screen, it will be much like staring at a slot machine and trying to avoid pulling the handle. It's like dangling a piece of candy in front of a child. It is hard to resist temptation. You must walk away for a while, and find something else to do. This may be a good time to pursue other ways of making income, or you may want to develop new trading strategies or read trading books. For some people, even this indirect way of trading may continue to be a temptation. It may be necessary for them to walk away from the trading arena entirely to pursue other activities.

    Don't take boredom lightly. We are bored when we feel that the task we are doing is not interesting. Our minds require stimulation, and when we are not stimulated properly, we seek out stimulation. If you feel bored yet continue to trade, you are naturally going to want to find stimulation. That may compel you to overtrade just to get some action. The problem with putting on trades just for fun, though, is that you are likely to lose money in the long run. You'll take low probability setups just because you want to put on a trade. It may be hard to fight the temptation, but it doesn't make sense to put on trades that are unlikely to yield a profit. If your capital is tied up in a few key swing trades, it is wise to just leave it there and not risk any more money. Find something else to do while you wait. Spend time with your family. Get a part-time job. Run errands. Do chores around the house.

    Keep in mind, the perk of trading is that it is possible to put on a few swing trades and spend the rest of your time doing something else while you wait. That's why many people pursue trading. Once you master it, you don't have to work exclusively as a trader. You can do other things while you wait for an outcome. So don't let boredom get the better of you. If you are bored waiting to see what happens in a swing trade or longer-term trade, walk away for a while (but don't forget to use the automatic settings on your trading platform). Take a break and relax. Don't let boredom drive you to make impulsive, spur-of-the-moment trades. Stick with the swing trades you have planned well. You'll be more profitable in the long run.
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Mensagem de: vset em Março 12, 2009, 22:51
Here's what I believe:

1. The markets are not random. I don't care if the number of aca¬demicians who have argued the efficient market hypothesis would stretch to the moon and back if laid end to end; they are simply wrong.
2. The markets are not random, because they are based on human behavior, and human behavior, especially mass behavior, is not random. It never has been, and it probably never will be.
3. There is no holy grail or grand secret to the markets, but there are many patterns that can lead to profits.
4. There are a million ways to make money in markets. The irony is that they are all very difficult to find.
5. The markets are always changing, and they are always the same.
6. The secret to success in the markets lies not in discovering some incredible indicator or elaborate theory; rather, it lies within each individual.
7. To excel in trading requires a combination of talent and extremely hard work-(surprise!) the same combination required for excellence in any field. Those seeking success by buying the latest $300 or even $3,000 system, or by following the latest hot tip, will never find the answer because they haven't yet understood the question.
8. Success in trading is a worthy goal, but it will be worthless if it is not accompanied by success in your life (and I use the word success here without monetary connotation).

In conducting the interviews for this book and its predecessor. Market Wizards, I became absolutely convinced that winning in the markets is a matter of skill and discipline, not luck. The magnitude and consis¬tency of the winning track records compiled by many of those I inter¬viewed simply defy chance. I believe the Market Wizards provide role models for what it takes to win in the markets. Those seeking quick fortunes should be discouraged at the onset.
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Mensagem de: vset em Março 17, 2009, 22:03
Chart
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Mensagem de: vset em Março 23, 2009, 12:41

http://www.finviz.com/
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Mensagem de: vset em Março 29, 2009, 23:49
Gráficos EOD ou RT

http://www.prorealtime.com
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Mensagem de: vset em Abril 08, 2009, 00:05

Be vigilant, guard your mind against negative thoughts.

~Buddha
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Mensagem de: vset em Abril 18, 2009, 19:47
http://stockcharts.com/
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Mensagem de: vset em Abril 26, 2009, 01:01
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Mensagem de: vset em Maio 01, 2009, 17:05

http://chart.ly/

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Mensagem de: vset em Maio 09, 2009, 17:52
(http://api.ning.com/files/EO9HiwyC1fxza61bFAuLSbFSKGdVvfIX3FHvomm*d3A341QQ6enqJCmg1OIxj4QMANJN1jiQ6Es5iEoW2ga1eaY5f-dILLhz/Wall_street_bull.jpg)
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Mensagem de: vset em Maio 16, 2009, 21:13

William O'neil said "buy high and sell higher"
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Mensagem de: vset em Maio 23, 2009, 01:06

(http://joergengeerds.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/2008-03-wall-street-nyse-700.jpg)

:)
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Mensagem de: vset em Maio 30, 2009, 10:10


Bom fim de semana!
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Mensagem de: vset em Junho 06, 2009, 13:12




"Many investors get caught by the grass-is-greener syndrome believing that shorter-and-shorter time periods is the secret to making money – it isn't."
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Mensagem de: vset em Junho 13, 2009, 01:24

Excelente trader,

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Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Junho 20, 2009, 18:27
The Whipsaw Song
© 2008 by Ed Seykota




to the tune of "The Crawdad Song,"

a traditional bluegrass tune in the key of A



Chorus:



A             

You get a whip and I get a saw, honey



                                E7
You get a whip and I get a saw, babe



A                  A7

You get a whip and I get a saw



D7
One good trend pays for 'em all.



A              E7    A
Honey, trader, ba-by mine.



Banjo (Ride Your Winners):
What do we do when we catch a trend, honey ... etc.
We ride that trend right to the end.



Mandolin (Cut Your Losses):
What do we do when we show a loss, honey ... etc.
We give that dag-gone loss a toss.


Fiddle (Manage Your Risk):
How do we know when our risk is right, honey ... etc.
We make a lot of money and we sleep at night.

Guitar (Use Stops):
What do we do when the price breaks through, honey ... etc.
Our stops are in so there's nothing to do.



Bass (Stick to the System):
What do we do when a draw down comes, honey
What do we do when it gets real big, babe
What do we do when it's even bigger ...
We stick to the plan and pull the trigger.



Banjo (File the News):
What do we do with a hot news flash, honey ... etc.
We stash that flash right in the trash.


Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Junho 27, 2009, 00:51


"Don't compound your losses by averaging down"
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Julho 04, 2009, 08:49

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Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Julho 11, 2009, 16:40
We live in an age that is dominated by the "I know what I want and I
want it now" attitude. It is a time of fast food and quick fixes. A time
of self before everything and Me! Me! Me! A rat race of the lowest
kind. Keeping up has never seemed more important-a mentality of
getting rich quick at any cost.
This attitude is also why many people are getting involved with
the commodity and futures industry. Trading can be a powerful endeavor.
On the other hand, it can also be financially crippling. Trading
is a game of risk versus reward. It is also a game that is not
forgiving of players who come in without learning the rules. For
those with the "get rich quick" or "gotta have it now" mentality, failure
is all but certain.
The failure rate of those who attempt to trade in the leveraged
markets arena is somewhere around 90 percent. As far as I can tell,
this means that 90 percent of those who begin trading stop showing
a net loss. I have also been told that at any given time 90 percent of
the open accounts show losses while only 10 percent of the accounts
show profits. These statistics illustrate that getting rich quick in
these markets is highly improbable. To make serious money in this
environment, traders must manage their money. Unless sheer luck
intervenes, no one will make a fortune in leveraged markets without
proper money management strategy.

RYAN JONES
Colorado Springs, Colorado
March 1999
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: Cubriclas em Julho 11, 2009, 17:51
100% de acordo com o que disse o Ryan!
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Julho 18, 2009, 09:40
O Objetivo

Os Meios são o Fim:

Pretendemos restaurar as necessidades fundamentais e a consciência ambiental da espécie revogando a maioria das idéias que temos de quem e o que realmente somos, juntamente com como a ciência, a natureza e a tecnologia (em vez de religião, política e dinheiro) são a chave para nosso crescimento pessoal, não só como indivíduos, mas como civilização, estrutural e espiritualmente. As percepções centrais dessa consciência são o reconhecimento dos elementos Emergentes e Simbióticos das leis naturais e de como o alinhamento dessa compreensão como base para nossas instituições pessoais e sociais, a vida na Terra transformar-se-á em um sistema que crescerá continuamente, onde consequências negativas sociais como camadas sociais, guerras, preconceitos, elitismo e atividades criminosas serão constantemente reduzidos e, esperamos, venham a deixar de existir no comportamento humano.

Claro que, para muitos humanos, é uma possibilidade muito difícil de se considerar, uma vez que fomos condicionados pela sociedade a pensar que crime, corrupção e desonestidade são "como as coisas são", que sempre haverá pessoas que querem abusar, ferir e tirar vantagem dos outros. A religião reforça fortemente essa propaganda, já que a mentalidade "nós e eles", "bem e mal" promove essa falsa suposição.

A verdade é que vivemos numa sociedade que produz escassez. A consequência dessa escassez é que os humanos devem se comportar de modo a se preservar, mesmo que isso signifique enganar e roubar para conseguirem o que querem. Nossa pesquisa concluiu que a escassez é uma das causas mais fundamentais de desvios de comportamento humano, além de levar a formas complexas de neurose. Uma análise estatística do vício em drogas, da criminalidade e da população carcerária demonstra que a pobreza e condições sociais não saudáveis são parte da experiência de vida das pessoas que adotam tais comportamentos.

Seres humanos não são bons ou ruins... Eles são o resultado da experiência de vida que os influenciam e estão sempre mudando, sempre em movimento. A "qualidade" de um ser humano (se existisse algo assim) está diretamente relacionada a como foi criado e aos sistemas de crença aos quais ele foi condicionado.

Esse simples fato vem sendo gravemente ignorado e hoje em dia as pessoas pensam primitivamente que competição, ganância e corrupção são elementos "embutidos" no comportamento humano e, portanto, precisamos ter prisões, polícia e consequentemente uma hierarquia de controle diferenciado para que a sociedade possa lidar com essas "tendências". Isso é totalmente ilógico e falso.

O x da questão é que para melhorar as coisas, você fundamentalmente precisa trabalhar nas raízes do problema. O atual sistema de "punição" usado pelas sociedades é ultrapassado, desumano e improdutivo. Quando um assassino em série é preso, a maioria das pessoas faz manifestações exigindo a morte dessa pessoa. Isso está errado. Uma sociedade realmente sã, que entende o que somos e como sistemas de valores são criados, pegaria esse indivíduo e aprenderia sobre os motivos por trás de seu comportamento violento. Essas informações passariam então por um departamento de pesquisa, que consideraria modos de evitar que fatos como esse ocorressem através da educação.

É hora de pararmos de remediar. É hora de começarmos uma nova abordagem social que utilize os conhecimentos atuais. Tristemente, nossa sociedade é amplamente baseada em determinações e resoluções ultrapassadas e supersticiosas. É importante ressaltar que não há utopias ou conclusões. Todas as evidências indicam infinitas atualizações em todos os níveis. Por sua vez, são nossas ações pessoais cotidianas que moldam e perpetuam os sistemas sociais que adotamos. No entanto, paradoxalmente, são as influências do ambiente que criam nossas perspectivas e, portanto, nossas visões de mundo. Logo, a verdadeira mudança nascerá não só do ajuste de nossas decisões e compreensões pessoais, mas também da mudança das estruturas sociais que as influenciam.

Os sistemas elitistas de poder são pouco afetados por protestos tradicionais e movimentos políticos. Devemos dar um passo além dessas "rebeliões do sistema" e trabalhar com uma ferramenta muito mais poderosa: parar de apoiar o sistema, ao mesmo tempo em que propagamos o conhecimento, a paz, a união e a compaixão. Não podemos "lutar contra o sistema". Ódio, ira e a mentalidade de "guerra" são um modo ineficaz de obter mudança, pois eles perpetuam a mesma ferramenta que os sistemas de poder corruptos estabelecidos utilizam para manter o controle.
Distorção e Paralisia:

Precisamos entender que todos os sistemas são Emergentes e estão constantemente em evolução, juntamente com a realidade de que todos nós estamos Simbioticamente conectados à natureza e uns aos outros de modo simples, porém muito profundo, levando à percepção de que nossa integridade pessoal é equivalente à do resto da sociedade. Então, perceberemos o quão distorcida e invertida é a nossa sociedade atual e como sua perpetuação é a causa maior de sua instabilidade. Por exemplo, o Sistema Monetário é há muito tempo considerado uma força positiva na nossa sociedade graças à sua alegação de que produz incentivos e progresso. Na verdade, o sistema monetário tornou-se um veículo para a divisão e o controle totalitário.

Ele é a expressão máxima do lema "Dividir e conquistar", pois em seu núcleo estão as suposições de que (1) Devemos lutar uns com os outros para sobreviver (2) Seres humanos precisam de um "estímulo" recompensador para fazer coisas significativas.

Quanto ao Número 1 (Devemos lutar uns com os outros para sobreviver), essa característica da competição no sistema é o que produz corrupção em todos os níveis da sociedade, pois parte do "nós contra eles". Muitos argumentam que o sistema de "livre comércio" é bom... Mas ele é corrupto nos dias de hoje, graças as políticas ruins, favorecimento, auxílios financeiros, etc. Eles supõem que se um mercado livre "puro" fosse instituído, as coisas seriam melhores. Isso é falso, pois o que você está vendo hoje é o livre mercado em funcionamento com todas as suas desigualdades e corrupção. Não há lei que vá impedir vendas privilegiadas, conspirações, monopólios, abuso de mão-de-obra, poluição, obsolescência calculada e coisas do tipo... Isso é o que o sistema baseado em competição cria com eficiência, pois é baseado na premissa de tirar vantagem dos outros para obter lucro. Ponto final.

Precisamos começar a abandonar esses ideais opressivos e caminhar em direção de um sistema projetado para cuidar das pessoas... Não para forçá-las a lutar por sua sobrevivência. Quanto ao Número 2 ("Seres humanos precisam de um 'estímulo' recompensador para fazer coisas significativas), essa é uma perspectiva triste e incrivelmente negativa do ser humano. Supor que uma pessoa precise ser "motivada estruturalmente" ou "forçada" a fazer algo é simplesmente absurdo. Lembre-se de quando você era criança e não tinha a menor idéia do que fosse dinheiro. Você brincava, era curioso e fazia muitas coisas... Por quê? Porque você queria. No entanto, conforme o tempo passa em nosso sistema, a curiosidade e auto-motivação naturais são extirpadas das pessoas, pois elas são forçadas a se ajustar a um sistema de trabalho especializado, fragmentado, quase predefinido para poderem sobreviver. Por sua vez, isso costuma criar uma revolta interior natural nas pessoas devido à obrigação e foi assim que separamos os momentos de "lazer" e de "trabalho". A preguiça que aqueles que defendem o sistema monetário (por alegar que ele cria estímulo) não reconhecem este fato. Numa sociedade verdadeira, as pessoas seguem suas inclinações naturais e trabalham para contribuir para a sociedade – não porque são "pagas" para isso, mas porque têm uma consciência maior de que colaborar com a sociedade ajuda tanto a si próprias quanto a todas as outras pessoas. Esse é o estado elevado de consciência que esperamos transmitir. A recompensa por sua contribuição para a sociedade e o bem-estar daquela sociedade... o que, por consequência, é também o seu bem-estar.

Agora, colocando as coisas em perspectiva, é importante entendermos que nosso mundo é atual e inegavelmente conduzido por um pequeno grupo dominador em altos cargos nas instituições dominantes em nossa sociedade – Negócios e Finanças. O funcionamento do governo é regido pela influência e poder das corporações e dos bancos. O elemento vital é o dinheiro, que na verdade é uma ilusão e hoje tem pouca relevância para a sociedade, servindo como meio de manipulação e desunião num tipo de organização social que gera elitismo, crime, guerras e camadas sociais.

Ao mesmo tempo, as pessoas aprendem que ser "correto" é o que lhes atribui valor como seres humanos. Este conceito de "correto" está diretamente ligado aos valores vigentes na sociedade. Logo, aqueles que aceitam ou apóiam as visões do sistema social são considerados "normais", enquanto aqueles que discordam são "anormais" ou "subversivos". Seja isso o dogma de uma tradição social ou o alinhamento com uma religião mundialmente estabelecida, a base é a mesma: o Materialismo Intelectual. Quando percebemos que o conhecimento e, consequentemente, as instituições estão em constante evolução, vemos que qualquer sistema de crença que declare "saber" tudo, sem espaço para o debate, é uma perspectiva errônea. A religião, baseada na fé, é a grande agente de distorção, já que alega ter respostas definitivas sobre as origens mais complexas da humanidade, e isso simplesmente não é possível num universo emergente.

Compreendendo isso, percebemos então que as pessoas que foram condicionadas a aceitar completamente esses ensinamentos estáticos são tão perigosas quanto as Estruturas de Poder Estabelecidas, pois se tornam "guardiãs voluntárias do status quo". Isso se aplica a todos os sistemas, principalmente ao político, ao financeiro e ao religioso. Uma vez que a identidade das pessoas se associa às doutrinas da ética de um País, Religião ou Empresa, torna-se muito difícil mudá-la, já que sua identidade está mesclada às das ideologias que lhe foram impostas. Assim, os ensinamentos estáticos seguem perpetuando a doutrina da instituição, simplesmente para manter sua integridade pessoal como eles a percebem. Precisamos quebrar esse ciclo, pois ele paralisa nosso crescimento não só como indivíduos, mas como sociedade.
Verdade e Transição

Uma vez que nós compreendamos que a integridade de nossa existência como pessoa está diretamente relacionada à integridade do Planeta Terra, da vida e de todos os outros seres humanos, teremos então um caminho predefinido. Além disso, quando percebermos que são a ciência, a tecnologia e, portanto, a criatividade humana que trazem progresso para nossas vidas, seremos capazes de reconhecer nossas verdadeiras prioridades para o crescimento pessoal e social e para o progresso. Posto isso, podemos ver que a Religião, a Política e o Sistema de Trabalho baseado em Dinheiro/Competição são modos desatualizados de operação social que agora precisam ser abordados e transcendidos. Nossa meta é um sistema social que funciona sem dinheiro ou política, ao mesmo tempo em que permite que as superstições percam terreno à medida que a educação avançar. Ninguém tem o direito de dizer ao outro em que acreditar, pois nenhum ser humano tem a compreensão completa de nenhum assunto. Entretanto, se prestarmos atenção aos processos naturais da vida, podemos ver como eles se alinham à natureza e assim nosso caminho fica mais claro. Por exemplo, muitas pessoas estão preocupadas com o crescimento populacional, enquanto comentários assustadores de pessoas como Henry Kissinger sugerem que seja necessário algum tipo de "redução". Porém, a pergunta principal continua sendo: o crescimento populacional é tão ruim assim? A resposta é: em uma perspectiva científica, o planeta pode suportar muito mais pessoas se necessário, desde que haja investimentos em alta tecnologia. 70% do nosso planeta é coberto de água e cidades sobre o mar (um dos muitos projetos de Jacque Fresco são o próximo passo). Por sua vez, a educação sobre o funcionamento da vida informará às pessoas sobre as consequências de seus interesses reprodutivos e o crescimento populacional será reduzido naturalmente à medida que as pessoas percebam como elas estão ligadas ao planeta à capacidade de sustentação.

Na verdade, o único verdadeiro "governo" que pode haver é o gerenciamento da Terra e de seus recursos. A partir daí, todas as possibilidades podem ser consideradas. Por isso, é necessária uma unificação intelectual entre os países, pois as informações mais valiosas que podemos ter como espécie são uma avaliação detalhada e completa do que temos nesse planeta. Assim como você avalia o solo e os recursos antes de plantar algo, precisamos fazer o mesmo com o planeta para otimizar aquilo que podemos fazer enquanto espécie, em termos de recursos.

Naturalmente, muitos que analisarem as idéias apresentadas acima vão perguntar: "Como podemos fazer isso, considerando o sistema de valores distorcidos em vigência? Como faremos essa transição? Essa é a pergunta mais difícil. A resposta: temos que começar de algum lugar. Há muitas coisas que podem ser feitas por uma única pessoa ou comunidade que podem começar a moldar essa visão. O passo mais importante é a educação.

Em 15 de março de 2009 (o Dia Z, como foi chamado em 2008) haverá uma série de ações mundiais para aumentar a consciência sobre esse caminho sociológico. Nossa esperança é termos encontros regionais em tantas cidades, estados e países quanto for possível. Nós aqui do zeitgeistmovement.com vamos trabalhar para oferecer material em todas as línguas que pudermos e faremos o possível para ajudar cada subgrupo. Nós nunca pediremos dinheiro. Estamos aqui para ajudar, pois entendemos uma verdade central que está esquecida há muito tempo: quanto mais você dá, mais você recebe.

Obrigado por sua ajuda.



http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/



:)
Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Julho 25, 2009, 10:38

As traders continuam :)


Título: Re: Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education
Mensagem de: vset em Agosto 07, 2009, 00:38
Viva,

http://www.palisade.com/risk/default.asp

Por aí alguém usa software de análise de risco?

::)