Tópico do OURO e da PRATA

[Semitela]

Boas ,

Isto hoje promete      o Ouro acima dos 642$ e a prata acima dos 13,20$



Vamos acompanhando mas um fecho acima dos 650 pode projectar a cotaçao do Ouro para cima dos 700$

[Paciente]

Caro Semitela,

A sessão promete mesmo. Estamos no intradiário com um breakout no OURO e na PRATA (este metal já tinha ameaçado ontem) que a confirmar-se no final da sessão deixa os metais em muito boa condição técnica.

Claro que o OURO convém superar os $650 para não deixar dúvidas, mas um fecho dos futuros acima dos $645 já abre excelentes perspectivas para o metal dourado.

O USDX está a caír bem o que ajuda à valorização do OURO. Mas o mais importante mesmo é observar o XAUEUR (OURO spot em euros). Um fecho acima dos €496 - €500 é a confirmação de que o OURO vai iniciar um movimento mais amplo que poderá testar os máximos de 2006.

Por outro lado, hoje as acções do sector (que têm andado moribundas) estão a registar fortes ganhos com o índice HUI a valorizar nesta altura quase 3,5%. Vamos lá ver se este comportamento das acções se mantém até final da sessão.

Para já está tudo a correr de feição para estes dois metais.

[Paciente]

Gostaria de saber, na vossa opinião qual as acções, dos sectores do ouro e prata com os melhores indicadores do mercado.

Caro Jcfferrer,

Não sei o que quer dizer com "melhores indicadores" do mercado. Existem muitas formas de avaliar as empresas do sector do OURO e da PRATA.

Se tiver tempo e se der ao trabalho de ler este tópico constatará que várias empresas do sector já aqui foram referidas. Esse poderá ser um primeiro "filtro".

Existem muitas empresas (sobretudo "juniors") neste ramo de actividade. O problema é que as melhores "juniors" estão cotadas apenas no Canadá.

Seja como fôr, se quiser começar a criar um portfólio com empresas do sector do OURO e da PRATA aconselho que opte por empresas de média dimensão. Evite empresas muito grandes (com excepção da GG) e sobretudo as que recorrem ao "hedging".

Na minha modesta opinião penso que no sector da PRATA a PAAS, SDRG, SLW, e SSRI são boas opções. Se tiver acesso ao mercado canadiano aconselho vivamente a ECU.V pelas excelentes perspectivas futuras que apresenta.

No sector do OURO (onde há mais opções) gosto particularmente da AEM, AUY, GG, GRS, MNG, NG, SA e TRE. Mas existem mais opções...


Abraço

[nobody]

Penso que estes artigos terão algum interesse.

IMF will tell central banks to stop double-counting gold, Blanchard learns

NEW ORLEANS -- After months of inquiries and a hotly debated, in-depth position paper by its economic research unit, Blanchard and Co. has learned that the International Monetary Fund has adopted a landmark accounting change to the way central banks account for their gold loans, giving this sector of the commodities market more transparency than it has ever had, the precious metals market leader announced today.

"This is a huge step forward for the precious metals market and a major victory for the gold market investor," said Blanchard Chairman and CEO Donald W. Doyle, Jr. "Not since the Washington Agreement on gold in 1999 and the legalization of gold ownership for Chinese citizens in 2004 has there been such an important event in the advancement of the gold market."

Blanchard and Co. has long stated that the IMF's accounting guidelines have allowed central banks and bullion banks to inaccurately account for their gold loans, and the newly adopted accounting change means
that central banks will no longer include the amount of gold they have loaned and sold into the market as part of their reserve total assets, Doyle said.

"Transparency has always been a central issue in the gold market for investors and analysts alike, but this decision by the IMF will greatly redress that issue as these accounting changes are implemented," Doyle said. "It also only adds more credence to our analysis that the precious metals markets are now poised to make long-term, steady price growth."

http://gata.org/node/4728

Leading Canadian banker recommends gold, denounces fiat system

By Anthony S. Fell, Chairman
RBC Capital Markets
Vancouver Client Appreciation Dinner
Four Seasons Hotel, Vancouver
Thursday, January 18, 2007

.... I would not want to close off the evening without tabling one opportunity for all of us to make money, safeguard our wealth, and protect ourselves from the ravages of inflation over the next many years -- and that is gold bullion.

Gold bullion is a secretive, opaque market with little transparency. Gold can be volatile, is almost impossible to forecast on a short-term basis, and requires great patience, and, accordingly, it's not for short-term traders but rather for serious long-term investors.

Is gold a currency, a commodity, or a store of value?

The answer is all three, but gold bullion is primarily a currency and a store of value and is a hedge against fiat paper money and inflation.

As an economic consultant in 1966 Alan Greenspan wrote: "In the absence of the gold standard, there is no way to protect savings from confiscation through inflation. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process."

At Royal Bank we trade gold bullion off our foreign exchange desks rather than our commodity desks because that's what it's is -- a global currency.

As J.P. Morgan said in 1913: "Gold is money and nothing more."

It was Alan Greenspan again who said in a 1999 testimony before the U.S. House Banking Committee that "gold represents the ultimate form of payment in the world."

Gold bullion is the only currency worldwide which is freely tradable and which is unencumbered by vast quantities of sovereign debt and prior obligations.

Gold bullion is the one investment and long-term store of value which cannot be adversely impacted by corrupt corporate management or incompetent politicians -- each of which are in ample supply on a
global basis.

As a currency and a store of value gold has stood the test of many centuries.

At the current level of about $625 per ounce, gold has risen about 250 percent over the last five years.

Nevertheless, I believe gold bullion is now in the very early stages of a long-term secular bull market which will carry it to much higher levels over the coming decade.

I don't think there's any point in speculating how high the price of gold might go in the course of this cycle because no one can be that precise.

Suffice to say I anticipate a material increase.

History doesn't repeat but it's well to remember that from 1970 to 1980 gold rose 2,300 percent so it shows what can happen.

Reflecting on the long-term outlook for gold, it is important to fully appreciate that we now live in a world of fiat paper money.

Just as a reminder, fiat paper money, according to the Oxford Dictionary, is inconvertible paper money made legal tender by government decree.

The real question over the long term is: How much confidence do you have in politicians and central bankers to maintain the purchasing power of their currencies?

Since the U.S. moved to fiat paper money in 1971, the dollar has lost 80 percent of its purchasing power.

Since the Federal Reserve was established 93 years ago, the dollar has lost 98 percent of its purchasing power.

The new fiat U.S. dollar system has been in place for only 35 years -- not long when you consider the sad and sorry record of fiat paper money around the globe throughout the past century or two.

I would say the jury is very much out on this new system.

What will the record of the U.S. dollar be in another 20 or 30 years?

Recent history does not augur well and it could be much worse.

The U.S. annual trade deficit, now running at a rate of more than three-quarters of a trillion annually, or 6.3 percent of GDP, is a huge concern.

It's not prudent for the U.S. to depend on foreign bond buyers to finance domestic consumption.

Asian countries produce low-cost goods which are shipped to the United States, the U.S. ships dollars back to Asia, and then the Asians purchase U.S. treasuries.

One could say this is a giant international Ponzi scheme. I don't think this model is viable or sustainable. Asian central banks will not want to accumulate U.S. dollars at the current rate forever.

There is no free lunch. Virtuous circles like this, where everyone appears a winner, always come to an unhappy ending.

We have never before experienced imbalances in global trade and foreign exchange of the current magnitude -- not even close.

Major currency realignment is coming, and the longer it is delayed, the more the risk of the crisis. You can't hold back the tide.

The ingredients are here for major trouble in global financial and foreign exchange markets.

For all these reasons, I believe the stature and reputation of the U.S. dollar as a store of value have been greatly diminished and undermined over the past decade.

In light of all this, I believe gold bullion will gradually re-emerge as an accepted alternative asset and investment.

Over the past few years the price of gold has been in a clear uptrend against the U.S. dollar, the euro, the yen, the Indian rupee, and the renminbi.

I think this trend will continue and accelerate as events unfold.

Another factor is that I believe over the past decade there has been a substantial increase in systemic risk in the global financial system, which has benefited greatly from an extended period of incredibly low interest rates, easy credit, and what can only be described as massive liquidity.

History shows that such an environment can, and usually does, foster a degree of complacency.

In the financial and investment business memories are short and every generation has to learn the hard way.

Leverage in virtually every area of the financial markets has increased.

Financial products are now infinitely more complex.

There is, at present, an unwarranted optimism that the business cycle is a thing of the past, that central banks with infinite wisdom are in firm control and will be able to thread the needle between inflation and deflation, and that we will never again have a major foreign-exchange or financial crisis.

Well, I don't believe it, and the record shows that gold bullion represents a solid store of value in times of economic and financial distress.

Over the coming decade, global gold production will be static to declining while governments around the world continue to increase the money supply at a rapid rate.

If there is an "event" and a crisis develops, they will print money even faster.

The arithmetic is compelling.

Total gold production since the beginning of time is estimated at 5 billion ounces valued at about $3.2 trillion at current prices now scattered around the world in jewellery, artifacts. and gold bars in safety deposit boxes.

Annual gold production is now running at about 76 million ounces, which means that the above-ground stock of gold is increasing at about 1.5 percent per year.

In contrast, central banks around the world are probably printing money and creating credit at the annual rate of 5 to 10 percent per annum.

Recently in China the money supply has been increasing at a rate of 18 percent.

These numbers dictate that gold prices are destined to go much higher.

In short, the global supply of fiat paper money is increasing perhaps four times faster than the physical supply of gold bullion, and sooner or later this will be reflected in the market.

It's like a coiled spring.

Major gold companies are not replacing reserves and major discoveries are incredibly rare.

Investors forget that at most gold mines you have to move 35 to 40 tons of dirt and rock just to get one ounce.

On the other hand, fiat paper money can be printed by pressing a button on a computer.

It's quite interesting if you've noticed what's happening to paper money.

Not so many years ago millions of dollars seemed like a lot of money. Then we started talking about hundreds of millions and then we were thinking in terms of billions.

Then a billion became petty change and we started to talk in terms of hundreds of billions and now you hear the word "trillion" more and more.

The next stage will be hundreds of trillions.

Recently an "old master" painting was auctioned in New York for $94 million.

Just based on common sense, we have to ask ourselves: Is that painting really worth $94 million, or has the U.S. dollar become just like so much confetti?

I think we know the answer.

When Mr. Nardelli was recently fired as CEO of Home Depot he received a settlement of $210 million. The CEO of Pfizer received a settlement of $240 million when he was let go.

A condo in New York trades for $80 million.

What does all this say about the value of money?

Finally, there is a great deal of skepticism about the future of gold, which is a very positive factor.

Investors forget that bear markets start when the skies are blue and bull markets start when despair and apathy are in the air.

At present most major investors now regard gold and gold shares with apathy and even distain and are vastly underweight the sector.

The vast majority of investors are so short-term oriented they just don't see the big picture unfolding.

When the price of crude oil bottomed out at $10.70 a barrel on Christmas Day in 1998 and the front cover of the Economist magazine was forecasting a glut of oil and a price of $5 a barrel, you couldn't give oil or gas stocks away.

Now just seven years later, even after the recent decline, the price of oil is up five times.

What a difference a few years can make.

Similarly, with the price of uranium at $7 a pound at the end of December 2000 you couldn't give away either uranium or uranium stocks. Now that uranium has increased by 1,000 percent to $70 a pound, investors are driving uranium stocks to all-time highs.

The market just didn't see it coming -- it happens all the time.

So it is my view that, after a 20-year bear market from 1980 to 2000, the past few years represent a major positive turning point in the fundamental long-term outlook for gold bullion.

Gold is a hedge against inflation and, as a result of the excesses of the past 15 years, I believe there is more inflation in the pipeline than is generally anticipated -- perhaps quite a bit more -- just like the 1970s.

I believe any surprises on the inflation front will be on the upside.

To some extent, I regret to say, all paper currencies are becoming somewhat suspect, and accordingly it is my view that gold bullion, rather than being the barbarous relic described by John Maynard Keynes, may well become the asset of choice for many investors over the coming decade.

I have always been told to buy quality assets that are vastly undervalued and that have been ignored by the marketplace for a prolonged period.

Notwithstanding the modest rise in gold prices over the past few years, that is where gold bullion is today, and it represents a great opportunity.

http://gata.org/node/4725

[Paciente]

Caro nobody,

Esse segundo artigo é, na minha opinião, de leitura obrigatória.

Quem quiser entender o porquê deste Bull Market no OURO não deve deixar de o ler.

Quanto ao primeiro artigo é de extrema relevância para o futuro da cotação do OURO.

Quando os Bancos Centrais vierem a adoptar as novas regras de contabilização do OURO emprestado (que o IMF parece agora disposto a implementar) e acabarem com a actual promiscuidade contabilística, a realidade vai aparecer nua e crua aos olhos do mundo financeiro. Penso que muitos vão ter um choque com o nível de reservas reais de OURO existentes actualmente nos BC's.


Abraço

[Capitán]

Boas,

Deixo aqui um gráfico da SSRI e também algumas dúvidas. 

Fará sentido pensar num possível teste e quebra da linha de resistência dos 31.40, ou esta hipótese existe principalmente pela subida do preço da prata e pouco tem haver com análise técnica? A pergunta pode parecer estúpida, porque imagino que seja quase impossível isolar qualquer uma destas "variáveis", desde logo porque o preço desconta hoje expectativas de evolução da prata.

A linha de suporte de médio prazo é traçada pela união dos pontos 18.82 e 27.52 certo? 


Cumprimentos,

Capitan

[Paciente]

Caro Capitán,

Faz todo o sentido essa possível quebra dos $31,40.

As acções têm estado algo "atrasadas" face aos metais, embora a SSRI até seja um dos poucos casos em que não houve grande retracção na cotação. As razões para a subida das acções podem não estar exclusivamente ligadas à cotação do metal subjacente.

Mas, como é óbvio, uma subida na cotação da PRATA tem repercussões positivas na SSRI. No entanto, a acção também pode subir com o metal a lateralizar ou até a descer nos casos em que são anunciadas decobertas de novos filões de PRATA (ou quando a empresa anuncia um aumento nas suas resrvas e recursos minerais).

Quanto à linha de suporte, está bem traçada. Embora eu não a considere de médio prazo (tem origem apenas em OUT2006). Para médio prazo eu consideraria a linha traçada entre o mínimo de JUN2006 (nos $15,71) e o mínimo de OUT2006 (nos $18,82)


Abraço

[Paciente]

Mais uma boa sessão nos futuros destes dois metais.

Os futuros (FEV06) do OURO fecharam nos $645,9 a subir 11,8 dólares. Quanto à PRATA valorizou 26 cêntimos para os $13,26. Temos, portanto, fechos de muito bom nível e próximo do máximo intradiário.

Mas hoje o dia é das acções do sector. Parece que voltámos aos bons velhos tempos com os índices a registarem fortes valorizações. A 30 minutos do fim da sessão, o HUI sobe cerca de 4,5% e existem muitas acções com fortíssimas valorizações (acima de 7%). O volume está muito forte e parece que os investidores "acordaram" paraa os "saldos de Inverno" neste sector.

As estrelas da sessão: AUY, MDG, MNG, PMU, VGZ todas com valorizações acima de 7% e muito volume.

[PekenoBuda]

Excelente dia.

Deixo a introdução e o link para um artigo interessante, simples e conciso.

Ver artigo aqui:
www.golddrivers.com/tgdl/goldhui/goldhui20070121.htm

HUI – Preparing for Launch soon!

by Eric Hommelberg
Jan 21, 2007

Scared about current bearish sentiment in gold and its shares? Sold your gold shares recently? Well, not so clever since the gold shares are dirt cheap these days and as the saying goes, 'buy low and sell high'. So investors selling their gold shares into weakness lately did so because of fear not because of fundamental reasons. Sure enough that fear has been boosted lately by many analysts calling for the end of the commodity boom and extrapolating that bearishness into the precious metals arena.

Although I don't think the commodity boom has ended we shouldn't consider the precious metals as a commodity since gold is a currency and trades like a currency. Ax explained in my piece Gold & US$ there's not a snowball's chance in hell for gold to come down significantly since it requires a sharp appreciation of the dollar. Now China publicly admits that it's looking for ways how to use their excessive foreign reserves which are now exceeding the one trillion dollar mark. FED chairman Bernanke has warned congress that it should take action in order to cope with the tremendous up-coming fiscal liabilities due to the explosion of baby boomer retirees (as of 2008). Bush just announced to send another 20.000+ troops to Iraq. Some estimates are projecting the total costs of the Iraq war close to two trillion dollars. You really think this is all dollar positive? No, of course not but again, I'm not predicting a major dollar crash since it is in no ones interest to see a dollar collapse and yes, maybe central banks will do whatever they can to halt (slow down) the dollar's slide but the thing is that a major dollar appreciation is out of the question and so is a major gold decline. On top of this we do witness an increase of gold demand while gold supply will be in decline to 'flat' at best coming years. The bottom line is that gold's fundamentals do still point towards much higher gold prices the years ahead.

[Paciente]

Atenção! Hoje a cotação do OURO está a proximar-se perigosamente (no bom sentido, claro está) dos 500 Euros.

Nesta altura temos o XAUUSD nos 645,65 e o EURUSD nos 1,2956. Estes valores equivalem a uma cotação do OURO igual a €498,30.

A resistência técnica situa-se à volta dos €496 mas penso que se deve considerar a quebra da barreira psicológica dos €500 como confirmação do breakout.

[Semitela]

Boas Perspectivas para o Ouro ,


Encontrei este grafico que demonstra o possivel caminho para as proximas semanas.


Abraços

[ajrsoares]

negoceias o ouro e a prata via futuros, ou via spot?

Tudo bem contigo?

Abraço

[Paciente]

Já tocou nos €500!

[Paciente]

Viva ajrsoares!

Sejas bem aparecido. Tudo bem contigo?

Olha, eu negoceio futuros e spot. Nas posições de prazo mais alargado costumo utilizar o spot (XAUUSD e XAGUSD). Quando é para trade de curto prazo ou para fazer cobertura (hedge) da carteira de acções utilizo os futuros da CBOT.


Abraço

[Paciente]

Mais uma interessante sessão para o OURO e PRATA.

Interessante porque foi digno de se ver a forma como o OURO e a PRATA recuperaram dos mínimos da sessão e acabaram por fechar positivos (o OURO chegou a estar a perder quase 7 dólares).

Os futuros do OURO, cujo contrato de referência passou a ser o de ABR07, fecharam nos $654,5 ($648,2 nos futuros de FEV07). Com a sessão de hoje temos dois fechos consecutivos acima dos $650 nos futuros de ABR07, o que abre excelentes perspectivas para o metal.

Até porque, como já referi, temos o OURO em cima da barreira psicológica dos €500.

Hoje tivemos o USDX a valorizar substancialmente o que só vem dar mais brilho à performance do OURO. Será que amanhã vamos ter o USDX a caír? Ou será que o OURO corrige?

Uma consolidação de preço seria normal, pelo que não excluo essa hipótese. Mas se o OURO quebrar os €500 a consolidação ficará adiada (será feita a preços mais altos), na minha opinião.

Convém no entanto referir que, se o USDX conseguir amanhã dar continuidade à subida de hoje, o OURO poderá não aguentar os níveis de preço actuais. Isto em condições ditas "normais".

Mas pelo comportamento - pouco habitual - que o metal tem exibido (alheio à queda do Crude e até à subida do USDX) não é de excluír uma repetição do que aconteceu em 2005. Ou seja, OURO a subir mesmo com o USDX a valorizar.

Claro que essa situação só é possível manter-se por um período de tempo relativamente curto sendo que, mais cedo ou mais tarde, um dos dois terá que corrigir e voltar a assumir a relação inversa.

Os futuros (MAR07) da PRATA fecharam nos $13,273.

Nas acções do sector as coisas parecem bem encaminhadas. Hoje, logo após a abertura, o HUI corrigiu e veio testar a LTd (de curto prazo) que havia sido quebrada em alta na sessão de ontem.

Neste momento já está em terreno positivo (a valorizar cerca de 1%) e encontra-se acima da MMs200. Se se mantiver assim até final da sessão confirma o breakout de ontem.

SSRI e PAAS estão com poderosos breakouts e sobem mais de 3% nesta altura.