Mercado Forex

[ze0202]

Olá Aleixon,

Numa óptica de longo prazo, o melhor é olhar aos "fundamentais". Não é que eu seja propriamente um especialista, mas por exemplo:

- O CAD está mto relacionado com o petróleo, se este sobe o CAD sobe (a coisa não é linear obvimente, mas veja-se o q tem acontecido ao preço do oil e o q tem acontecido ao CAD).
Já vi quem diga que se não houver guerra ou um grande acontecimento mundial, é provável que o oil desça (eventualmente devido a aumento de produção pela OPEP), logo o CAD descerá em relação ao USD.

Outra:
- Será que o BCE ainda vai aumentar mais as taxas de juro? Possivelmente sim. Mas não será mto mais. Assim que sinalizarem que já não aumentam mais, o Euro vai descer.
A questão, comparativamente com o USD, é ver se o Fed tb vai descer mais.

O AUD e NZD têm subido comparativamente ao USD pq as respectivas economais estão bem e a dos US nem por isso.

Etc.

Ou seja: longo prazo => fundamentals.

MD

N vos kero desanimar mas experimentem a jogar a sério só c/ base nos fundamentais ... e verão o k vos acontece à v/ conta... 

[velum]

Alguem pode retranscrever para aqui uns trades bem seguidos de compra até venda, nem que sejam perdedores para dar uma ideia aos alheios do forex?

Antecipadamente grato,
TBF

[El_Raiser]

eu só testei o forex ainda meio na brincadeira, abri uma conta com 50 dolares na Easy Forex e para já correu-me bem, vendi eurusd na semana passada e de repente tenho 300$ na conta 

[velum]

Wow, assim do nada?
Não planeaste o trade?
Porque não recorreste a tua corretora de costume?

Cpts,
TBF

[El_Raiser]

foi mesmo para experimentar porque nesta podes arriscar muito pouco dinheiro, aquilo é um sistema pouco sofisticado que funciona com base no stop, e se meteres um stop pequeno podes brincar com 25$ ou 12,5$ 
não tinha nenhum plano concreto, só achei que o eurusd estava para corrigir porque esteve ali muito tempo, shortei e tive sorte porque logo a seguir aquilo começou a cair e nunca fui stopado, eu abri a conta com 50 mas so arriquei 25 nesta trade, ou seja se tivesse metido todo em vez de 300 tinha ganho 600 !!!

[velum]

E quanto ao resgate desse lindo montante, esta a ser dificil?

Digo isto porque ja tive uns problemas com sites que não tem nada a ver, nomeadamente o bwin onde também não se precisa muita papelada para manipular uns euros...

[El_Raiser]

desculpe não ter aparecido mais aqui, não foi complicado, tive de mandar os scans do meu passaporte e um documento para provar a residência, depois disso não tive problemas a levantar. levantei 200$ deixei lá perto de 100$ e ainda não negociei outra vez porque estive fora, mas para já fiquei com boa impressão sobre a Easy Forex

[camafeu]

Neste mundo do Forex há muitas fraudes e scams, por parte das correctoras que supostamente deveriam ser apenas intermediários financeiros que prestam um serviço remunerado pelos spreads que praticam.

E que grandes diferenças existem nos spreads e na rapidez de execução das ordens, cuidado com os roubos.

Tenho lido muita informação sobre brokers reviews em sites e fóruns internacionais e confirma-se que os brokers trade against you, é claro que muitas reviews são de newbies que não são bons traders e perderam dinheiro mas muitas delas não são e há casos bastante preocupantes.

Vou pôr aqui links de fóruns e sites com reviews de utilizadores e clientes reais e não reviews de sites com acordos de publicidade com os brokers, algumas dessas reviews estão nos coments ou nos foruns, além disso explica lá como este negócio realmente funciona:

http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/public/forex_broker_reviews/

http://www.forex-ratings.com/

http://www.fxcomparison.com/forex_broker_reviews/

http://www.forexjustice.com/forex_broker_reviews.html

http://www.theforexreviewer.com/forexreviews/forex-broker-reviews/

http://www.forexrealm.com/brokers-reviews/

http://www.goforex.net/forex-broker-list.htm

http://www.forextopten.com/forex-broker.html

http://www.forex4noobs.com/

http://www.earnforex.com/


There are a lot of fraud and scam in Forex market as in other businesses. In this connection most of the law enforcement and regulatory agencies are fully aware of who is perpetrating Forex fraud and where they are located. But keep in mind that only by contacting EVERYONE that you can will get results.

In recent years there has been a sharp rise of Forex fraud and scams. Consumers should be watchful to investment fraud, scams in the persons of companies that sell Forex currencies and commodity brokers claiming that customers can make "a lot of money with little risk". If it sounds too good to be true it probably is.

The United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) is the federal agency that regulates the trading of Forex currency, commodity futures and options contracts in the United States and takes action against firms suspected of illegally or fraudulently selling Forex currency, commodity futures and options.
Some ways to defraud of your money

- Immoral Stop Running/Hunting
You are told by Forex brokers that there is little or no stop running. This is one of their biggest and boldest fabrications. The truth is there is far more stop running in Forex than in futures, and possibly as much stop running as in the stock market.

- Wipe you out by "false" spike
Sometimes, theres very quick spike in candlestick on a brokers chart, but there is nothing happening on the others chart. A stop-loss is triggered simply due to that suspicious spike.

- Ban you if you can win their money
Probably you have heard that if you are winning regularly in Forex, you may be barred from trading. Is this true? Yes it is.

- Leaning
Brokers say they are charging you a 3 pip spread to trade the popular currency pairs. But in reality a broker may be making as much or more than 10 pips on your trades. He does this by skewing prices. Since you are not trading at an exchange, the broker can feed you any price he wants to feed you.

- Skewing price quotation
Forex brokers commonly lean the prices. A Forex broker can only give you the price of a currency as quoted to him by the bank through which he trades. Banks have differing prices for a currency. You never know what the real price is because there is no central exchange through which all prices flow.

Forex market and trading is UNREGULATED.

They register only for Money Landering procedure.

Read their contract.

Read margin requirements.

They may change margin at any time on your open positions.

They may block you from trading.

They may delay to close profitable positions, or shift price on profitible positions in they favor.

They may close your open positions and close your account, simply just CASH IN account.

What is your rights?

Ok here is my sad story regarding forex brokers and scams. I consider myself lucky as i have never lost any significant money but i have defintely been scammed. I think that most forex traders dont even know they are being scammed ie. bucket shops altering the spreads, stop hunting, freezing the price and platform. Most of these things we just pass off as coincidense believe me they are not they are carefully orchestrated. Brokers pull reports and all of their clients and their trading habits. They then profile you and deal with you accordingly. Its essential to understand how the various brokers work and their business models. Felix explained it quite well in one of his videos i suggest all traders have a look at his videos. If you want to succeed its essential that you understand what category your broker falls into. essentially ther are only two market makers /bucket shops and ECN brokers that pass the real price directly onto you and take a commission on every deal. By far the most dishonest are the bucket shops some more than others. Do not believe their bull**** they tell you they only profit off the added spread and they fix the spread under all conditions. That is a dead giveaway as during volatile markets its impossible to keep the spread constant someone along the line has to pay the difference and believe me it isnt your broker. So they will find every way to nail you because if they dont they lose .

Thats why they dont like news traders because things move way to quick and if you get it right and they fill you they land up making a loss .Remember its not a real market when dealing with a market maker they are creating the market there arent necesarily buyers and sellers at a given price so they create a price hence the name market makers. Thats not to say that ECN's are totally above board they also manipulate the spreads from time to time but its defintely more fair and transparent. The downside with an ECN is thats its really hard to get filled during news , liquidity drops ie first come first serve so you are lucky to get filled dont ***** and moan if an ECN doesnt fill you during news they arent scamming you its just the way the system works.

Anyway hear are some of my brokers

1. FXCM (bucket shop) - slip you bad fills, trade against you, widen spreads, freeze platform. i wouldnt say FXCM are a scam they just now how to really screw you so you dont know u have been screwed.(masters)

2. FXDD (bucket shop) - slip really bad during news,requotes, freeze platform

3. ODL securities (bucket shop)- slip really bad during news,requotes, freeze platform, dealing desk , bad customer service - bunch of twits. they slipped me so bad and wouldnt let me close.

4. Profinum - (bucket shop) Scam- real bad scammers, got good fills initially during news and normal trades. then games started. Lucky to have got my money out

5. FX SOL (bucket shop)- Scam - stay away bad bad scammers - defintely no fills during news, freeze platform , high spreads. everything they tell you in their offering is exactly the opposite.

6. ACM (bucket shop) - i must say these guys arent bad , they used to fill me but spreads went crazy during news and then they stopped filling me after i made too much profit. I was told i was arbitrage trading (risk free trade). Overall i think if you position trade with them you will be ok. definitely more above board then the rest

7. MB TRading (ECN) - i dont have a large account with them but they fill me well , dont get filled much on news but great for after spike trading - i agree with felix they are definitely the best of a bad bunch.

8. AvaFx (bucket shop)- these guys were amazing initially i got unbelievable fills and closed trades lightning fast. Then i made too much money and the games started. I have closed my account now. Otherwise not too bad. customer service was quite dissapointing.

9. Forex Yard - (bucket shop) - slip you ,bad fills, trade against you, widen spreads, freeze platform

10.Velocity 4X -(bucket shop) - same as FXDD slip really bad during news,requotes, freeze platform, trade against you.

11. Delta Trading - (bucket shop) - these guys werent too bad they have a mixture of fixed spread and ECN type. Their problem is liquidity they dont have enough providers. Fills during news were hit and miss sometimes got good fills other times slipped badly. Customer service ok , overall not a bad option.


As you can see i have had my share of brokers. My preferance is to go with an ECN broker for after spikes and normal position trades, high spreads will kill you and eat your profits. Try and find a bucket shop that fills for news trades but dont put too much money in. Make your money and when they start playing games get out. They will nail you eventually.

Anyway thats my 5 cents worth. Take heed from my mistakes dont be misled by these sweet talking idiots at the end of the day they are just trying to make a buck out of you, dont believe a word they say.

I hope this information assists you in making a decision on your next broker.

I learned a while ago that brokers trade against your account. The way it works is like this... when you are profiting they delay the price a few pips so that if you close the trade they earn those pips. On the other hand, if you are losing they present the price very quickly and also a few pips ahead so that they also earn those pips. This is the main reason why is so hard to make money. They are always widening the gap.

So, when an account is close to have a margin call, trades do not reach the number they are closing the trade matching the one is in the chart.
Also, the price in the charts is not the real price and this is the reason why the brokers have a window to trade against you.

I have been told that the window can easily be 30 to 70 pips in normal market conditions and up to 200 to 300 pips in volatile market conditions. Now, getting into the situations reported by Felix and Rob it goes like this:
Sometimes the program (platform) does not handle the prices as the charts do and as a consequence a real price is reported into the client’s account. Another part of the equation is that a volatile market condition do not necessarily has to happen during news times, they can happen at any time. This is why even though the charts are not showing a 200+ price difference the account’s trade is. Technically, the broker can argue that the price was indeed at that price at that moment but they are bound by the fact that they say the price shown by the platform is the one they honor. On the other hand, they can go to the contract and say they do not have to honor the price because it happened during a volatile market condition.

They win, you lose. They have everything figured out. The only way to bring them down is by public exposure, do not try any other way. If one of the brokers is getting to much public embarrassment they will just go under with everyone’s money. If you happen to have your money in one of them, get it out before they disappear.

Sometimes, the broker will prefer to pay a client his money back instead of going out of business to set it up with another name.

Just 3 months ago I got Capitalex.com (a company that exchanged e-gold money) out of business because they took over $1675 dollars from me. I got my money back but the other people they robbed didn’t. Count on me, I will tell you how I did it.

[url=http://www.easy-forex.com/Gateway.aspx?gid=46182][url=http://www.easy-forex.com/Gateway.aspx?gid=46182]Easy Forex[/url][/url] is operating agents and afilates that brings them customers. Those agents get payed 10% of what their clients have lost .

This is how it works:
When the customer deposit, the agent get payed 10% of the deposit.

When the customer leaves E.F:
If the customer left with winnings, the agent have to return the 10%, and is also get fined by 10% of this customer's winnings.
If the customer left them with losses, the agent will have to return 10% of what the customer withdrawal .
if the customer leaves break even, the agent returns the initial 10% and get left with nothing.
and of course, the typical case when the customer lose his account, the agent gets to hold his 10% commission.

This is according to the lawsuit, that is still examined in court.

Personally, I always suspected them to be lousy bucket shop. I guess it was their tasteless over aggressive advertisement.

[camafeu]

Tenho continuado a pesquisar/investigar esta indústria do forex e já deu para perceber que anda muito dinheiro envolvido, tem semelhanças com o mundo do jogo e das apostas, vejam por exemplo o caso do IG Group Holdings plc, (http://www.iggroup.com/), faz trading de CFDs em acções, em Forex, indices, commodities, options, spread betting financeiro e em desportos, casa de apostas em desporto e binary bets.

Como o mercado de forex não é regulamentado, muitas corretoras também não o são e outras registam-se com um regulador só por motivos legais de lavagem de dinheiro porque na prática e nos termos e condições eles podem fazer o que quiserem, o que atrai modelos de negócio desonestos.

Devido à muita liquidez do mercado e da necessidade de depósitos de dinheiro em quantias consideráveis, ao risco do mercado e às promessas de dinheiro fácil muitas pessoas inexperientes e jogadores são atraídos e iludidos por uma perspectiva ou possibilidade de ganharem quantias astronómicas com pouco trabalho o que é aproveitado por gente sem escrúpulos que realmente enriquecem à custa de se aproveitarem dos sonhos de ganância dos outros, num mercado de forex virtual.


Este texto é interessante e muito instrutivo:


Why is it advisable to open your account with a European broker instead of a North American or Swiss broker ?

1. Quality: European brokers, in order to obtain a broker's licence from their local banking regulator, need to meet SIGNIFICANTLY more requirements than North American or Swiss brokers, and need to maintain higher operational quality standards. For example, WH SelfInvest must maintain 2 auditors. One of these auditors will regularly check that the company delivers the execution speed, service level, commission charges, etc it promises clients. Thus clients can rely on an independent quality control.

2. Differences of opinion: If an accountholder is really unhappy about something and we cannot come to a gentleman's agreement to solve the issue, accountholders have the possibility to submit their complaint to the ombudsman of the local banking commission (the CSSF). The ombudsman will contact us on your behalf to help settle the issue. If you have a difference of opinion with a North American broker it is extremely difficult and expensive to get the issue settled to your satisfaction. Even worse, we have several clients that have been verbally insulted when they complained to their North American broker.

3. Insurance: The governments of several European countries have insurance schemes in place covering their citizens if they open an account with a financial institution which has a European passport. A North American broker does not have a European passport and is thus not covered by such government insurance schemes.

4. Risk: Swiss brokers are allowed to keep client monnies on their own account. Client monnies thus become part of the broker's balance sheet. This increases risk significantly. Creditors can stake a claim to the money and all clients are co-responsible for losses.

http://www.goforex.net/market-makers-ecns.htm



Decidi testar a qualidade do atendimento ao cliente, e a integridade de todas as correctoras que conheço que transacionam no mercado de forex, mandando um email com uma série de perguntas comuns a todas, é claro que muitas não vão responder, outras vão omitir algumas respostas, outras não vão responder ao que eu perguntei e outras se não tiverem nada a esconder vão ser cooperantes.

As perguntas e respostas vão estar em inglês e eu vou postar aqui todas as respostas das correctoras que responderam ao meu email para se poder comparar  as diversas filosofias de corretagem existentes no mercado de forex, o objecivo é tentar evitar as fraudes/scams e a única maneira de fazer isso é torná-las públicas.

Aqui está a carta que lhes mandei:

I am interested to trade forex but i need to know more details about your brokerage service, please answer the following questions:

Who are your regulators?

Do you have a licence number?

Who is your auditor?

Can you send me attached in the mail documents that prove your compliance and the last 3 year audits?

Who are your liquidity providers?

Are the traders funds held in trust in a separated account or they are used for operational expenses?

In case of insolvency or bankruptcy there are some kind of governamental fund to protect traders?

In a case of a dispute between the trader and the brooker what third party will solve the complaint issue?

If i am a winning or a professional trader will i get my account limited and closed with winning trades cancelled?

You are a market maker with a dealing desk that may trade against my position?

Do you manipulate prices?

Can i trade during news?

Is scalping allowed?

Are you an ECN?

Regards

[camafeu]

LatitudeFX.co.nz

Hello friend



Many thanks for your questions but at the moment we cannot trade with people outside NZ,
Australia and Hong Kong.  I do however have a sister company in the US that uses the same technology as we use here at LatitudeFX.  I have sent her your details and she will be in contact with you shortly.



Kind regards

[camafeu]

marketforex.net

Since we are an affiliate, All your queries shall be answered by
www.easy-forex.com, Kindly refer the same to them. They are our sole
providers.

[camafeu]

ForexWebTrader



Hello,



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We generally advise our clients to start trading with at least $50 or $100 so that they can open a few positions and get a feel for trading, and you can withdraw from your account any time following the procedure in our webpage to also check us and how we work.



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Thank you for your interest in ForexWebTrader!

[camafeu]

www.forexservice.net

Dear sir!
Thank you very much for your attention to ForexService.
We can't answer on your questions because we are Ukrainian company and
provide service only for Ukrainian.

With best regards,
Manager Nataliya Kobylynskaya.

[camafeu]

finodds.com

Hello,

You can find these answers in our agreement and on the web site.
Support Team
Finodds

http://www.finodds.com


A única coisa que encontro no site:

FinOdds, N.V. is a licensed E-Zone company in the Netherlands Antilles

FinOdds N.V.
Van Engelenweg 23
Curacao, The Netherlands Antilles

44-207-993-8644

[camafeu]

westcapfx.com

Thank you for your inquiry  concerning the possibilities to open a trading account with our company.
Unfortunately, and due to a change in legislation in Switzerland since April 1st 2008 the Forex Trading companies here are no longer allowed to accept FX clients who open accounts diretcly with the company unless they apply for a full banking license.

As a consequence, our company has decided to close its Foreingn Exchange activities in Switzerland and to transfer the existing clients to our sister company in Cyprus which operates with a full license of the Cypriot authorities under the brand FxPro (http.www.fxpro.com).
We would recommend you to open an account with Fxpro which offers the same trading conditions as we were.

We will inform Fxpro of your interest , so please feel free to contact them. They will do their best to assist you in the account opening procedures

We wish you a happy trading.
Best regards

Western Capital Forex SA
Geneva