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Comunidade de Traders no Messenger + Charts & Education

Iniciado por vset, Janeiro 06, 2009, 23:45

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vset

Viva,

quem quiser para discusão de bolsa, AT (...) adicione o seguinte contacto ao msn messenger:

[email protected]

For Windows Live Messenger (MSN Messenger) & Yahoo Messenger users: Just add the account below as your Messenger contact, and enjoy :)

Para entender, embora seja muitissimo fácil:

http://groups.im/quickstart.html

É só adicionar e enviar um nudge ao contacto, para entrar no GRUPO.

É uma boa forma de comunicar realtime e sem ter de revelar o contacto (para quem não quer).

Cumprimentos.
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jose_goncalves

ora cá está uma boa iniciativa, é preciso é que o pessoal adira.

bem pensado vset.
josé gonçalves

mvlameiro

Aqui está uma bela ideia! Eu já aderi!

Cumprimentos e bn

vset

É uma forma funcional de comunicação entre traders, sempre activa 24h.

Cumprimentos.
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eduardo07

Tb ja aderi é uma boa ideia para podermos trocar impressoes.

vset

Bom dia,

não alterem a Language para Português, mantenham o Inglês. O Activity Panel poderá deixar de funcionar dessa forma.

Happy and Peacefull Trading!
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Exemplo do aspecto do chat
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Gráficos para a Comunidade de Traders


Setup Chart nº1
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Trading Education para Comunidade de Traders

PRODUCTIVE TRADING

Trading can take a lot out of you. If you are an aspiring trader looking for consistent profits, you have your work cut out for you. Many, many people are attracted to trading, but only a few actually become consistently profitable. I believe it takes a special kind of person to pursue trading; the kind of person who is not afraid of setbacks and who can persist even when the whole situation seems hopeless.
I often use the term "aspiring trader." To my way of thinking, until you are actually able to earn a living trading, you remain an aspiring trader.

There are three key strategies any trader can use to hang on when things all seem to be going wrong.
Learn to fight. It's interesting to know that when the ancient Romans put a bull and a bear in the same arena, the difference between the two animals was significant. When you hurt bull, it just makes him angrier and all the more willing to fight. Hence the term "brave bulls." When you hurt a bear, it seeks to escape. Bear markets are characterized by investors seeking to escape. Create an alternative reward system. You have to find ways to reward yourself even when you are experiencing losses. You cannot rely solely on market wins for your rewards. And while I'm at it, I don't mean an alternate reward system that involves going out to eat a hot fudge sundae. Eating type rewards will not contribute to your staying fit as a trader.
Focus on the process, not the prize.
Trading can put you on an emotional and psychological roller-coaster. You find yourself walking a thin line between feelings of arrogance and overconfidence, and feelings of incompetence and inadequacy. We all go through these feelings. Learn to live with them.

Trading is a business in which it is not unrealistic to assume you'll see more losses than wins. It's not easy to work under those conditions. We are used to getting paid for working; very few jobs cause you, as an employee, to take losses. However, aspiring traders are likely to put in long hours, with a possibility that the only reward they might get is losses.

Trading requires diligence and persistence, especially during times of disappointment and seemingly endless failures. Most people's confidence is severely shaken upon meeting such circumstances, and they often react with arrogant overconfidence. They build themselves up to the point where they are unrealistically optimistic. But it is necessary to remain realistic, ready to face setbacks head on, and unafraid to look at your limitations. By cultivating a fighting spirit, one can look at setbacks as minor commonplace events, and take them in stride.

When I was a lot younger, I used to coach baseball. You could immediately separate the players with infield potential by hitting hot grounders directly at them. Those who could keep their eye on the ball and not flinch, those who actually attacked the ball, were the ones who could play in the infield.

When people come to me wanting to be a day trader, I ask them two questions: Were you ever in a fist fight? If so, were you able to take a hit on the nose and keep coming? If the answer is yes, I know I've found a potential day trader. If the answer is no, then I know it is going to take a lot of work, and I will strongly suggest they learn to trade options or spreads.

Although profits are an obvious and natural reward for trading efforts, they are not always tied to the amount of work we put in. If you focus on the profits, it is likely that your mood will rise and fall with your account balance. Setting up an alternative reward schedule will provide more consistent rewards and allow you to persist even when faced with a losing streak. Reward yourself after putting in a fixed amount of time (the end of each day, for example). Buy yourself a nice shirt or do something you find enjoyable. By patting yourself on the back for your efforts, you'll consistently feel satisfied with your trading business, and stick with it.

Finally, you must focus on the process, not the prize. Trading is about making money, but the irony is that if you focus on the outcomes of your trades, you'll put excessive pressure on yourself and choke under that pressure. By focusing on intrinsic, rather than extrinsic, rewards, you'll feel more comfortable and creative, and trade more profitably in the long run. It may seem counterintuitive, but trading is all about being a contrarian to some extent. By focusing on the process of trading, rather than profits, rewarding yourself for effort rather than outcome, and cultivating a fighting spirit, you'll eventually become a successful trader.
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Clean Chart n.1

20 anos de NDX
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DAX 1 FEV. 2009


Happy trading!
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STAYING WITH YOUR PLAN

Aspiring traders often tell us that they have difficulty staying with their trading plan. There are many possible reasons this happens. Usually it's because of not having a clearly defined plan. When a trading plan is not clearly defined, it is hard to follow and easy to abandon.
Often we see traders whose do have a trading plan, but the one they have is much too complicated.

When you trade in an ad hoc way, even just a little bit that way, you can panic at the wrong moment. You may find yourself over-thinking your plan, or you may become easily absorbed with self-doubt. By contrast, when you clearly define a trading plan, you can implement it almost automatically. You can enter and exit with less effort. Many aspiring traders say, however, that even when they painstakingly delineate a trading plan, they still have difficulty following it. Depending on your personality, you may or may not have difficulty maintaining control and discipline.
Often, traders who are usually controlled and disciplined in other areas of their life, tend to have trouble sticking with trading plans. Disciplined people are rule followers, and research studies have shown that rule followers prefer certainty. However, anyone who has traded the markets for a few months soon realizes that the markets are not certain, and conventional wisdom is not consistently valid. It is true only when it is true, and the rest of the time it is wrong. I've said many times that in the market, two and two are just as easily twenty-two as they are four.
As it turns out, people who are more impulsive in everyday life have less difficulty following a trading plan. They view trading as fun and excitement, and they enjoy risk. These kinds of people truly don't care what happens. They have a natural, carefree attitude when it comes to trading. They can easily think, "Why not follow a plan? It doesn't matter if it goes awry." This kind of thinking is useful for a trader.
Most traders, however, have trouble approaching trading with a carefree attitude. For example, they may see the price rise initially. But then it stalls before reaching the predefined exit point. They instinctively think, "How much longer can it go up? They are skeptical. They think to themselves, "There aren't enough buyers. I can't wait. I've got to sell and lock in my profits right now." When they get to that point, they start thinking, "Don't be greedy. How can it be a bad thing to get out early and get a profit?" At that point, it's hard to stay in the trade. But it is vital for economic success to stick with the plan. Unless the plan calls for early exit, stay in! It is a matter of simple arithmetic. Although there may be several profitable trade setups out there, finding one is relatively rare. You'll see many more setups that don't pan out than actually do. When you hit upon one, you must capitalize on it, and optimize your profits, getting as much out of the trade as practical, while at the same time avoiding taking a loss on a trade that has been a winner. Otherwise, in the long run, your winners won't balance out your losers.
If you are a natural born risk taker, sticking with your plan is less difficult. Risk takers get a rush from the trade, and can't wait to see what happens. The psychological rush is more enjoyable, in some ways, than the outcome. Most people, however, are naturally worried about the outcome of their trades, and a little cautious voice nags them to get out of a trade before it comes to fruition.

How do you quiet the voice of caution? It's difficult. Some traders have suggested trading while tired or dazed, so that only a fixed amount of energy is left to both focus on the cautious voice and trading, so in the end you just automatically trade the plan. The idea is to lower your inhibitions so that you just follow the plan without thinking. It's the right idea, but it is hard to implement.

Some people might be able to trade while tired and dazed, but it is more likely that such a strategy will produce impulsive decisions in most people. It is probably wiser to be rested so that you can concentrate and quiet the little voice that nags you to get out of a trade too soon. The way I like to do it is to have a strategy that allows me to win by getting out "too soon." By coming up with high percentage setups, I find that I can plan to get out quickly and still make money.
Perhaps the best thing you can do is to manage risk. If the outcome of the trade truly doesn't matter, then you won't worry as much and can stick with your trading plan. Once you are rested, can concentrate, and you have relatively little to lose, you can try to cultivate the proper mindset of the winning trader.

Winning traders view trading as a fun business, much like how a person plays the card game of bridge. Bridge players are serious, yet they enjoy the game. They think, "I'm just having fun." Winning traders look at a trade and think, "I want to see if it reaches the exit point or not. It is more important to find out than anything else." They enjoy the trading. They are a student of the markets. The learning experience is more important than the outcome. Winning traders are not only players of the "game," but observers. They know how to look at the market action, even while in it, objectively, and it is more important to see what happens and gain experience than merely win. If you can cultivate such an attitude, you'll be able to follow your trading plan, and silence the voice of self-doubt that often thwarts your trading efforts.
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Frase para trader

Don't focus on making money; Focus on protecting what you have ...... Play great defence, Not great offence .... The the profits will follow' 'PAUL TUDOR JONES'
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THINGS I LEARNED FROM MY GREAT UNCLE

    Don't trade just because the market is open. Wait for your trade, the one that has your name on it. There are better and worse times to trade. Most commodity markets are best traded a few minutes after 09:30 U.S. Central Time.

    Don't trade based on news events. I know a lot of traders tell you to trade that way, but if you trade from them long enough you will realize that doing so is no better than flipping coin. At best, you'll break even. You just never know how people are going to react to the news -- good or bad.

    Whatever amount of capital you are able to trade with, trade less than you think you should. First and foremost it is important to be well capitalized. Having deep pockets relative to what you are trading is important to your feeling of well-being. Undertrading your account takes away a lot of the stress and pressure in trading. Does deep pockets mean you have to have huge account? Not at all. For example, if you have an account with only U.S.$3,000 and you lose 20 ticks worth $10 each, you will have lost 6.7% of your account. But if you lose those same 20 ticks with a $1,000 account, you will have lost 20% of your capital.

    Trade what you see, not what you think. When I was first told this truth, I didn't really understand what it meant or why I had to train myself to trade only what I see. But it soon became apparent that whenever I traded my opinion, the best I could do was a little less than breakeven. You see, what you think has nothing to do with the reality of price movement. What you think is colored by your own perception of what prices should do, not what they are actually doing. That's when I learned to write my opinion on a piece of paper and then throw that piece of paper into the trash. Yet writing it down was important because, as a human being, I had a need to express my opinion. Quite frankly, the whole process was something like learning to tap your head with one hand while learning to make circular motions on your abdomen with your other hand. I have to separate what I think from what I see.
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